Comments on: Multimedia: Cultural collisions drive Kroepsch honoree /news/2013/03/14/cultural-collisions-drive-kroepsch-honoree/ Mon, 08 Jul 2024 19:26:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.2 By: Αλέξανδρος /news/2013/03/14/cultural-collisions-drive-kroepsch-honoree/#comment-263339 Thu, 14 May 2020 18:49:00 +0000 /news/?p=63094#comment-263339 In reply to Loring Danforth.

Danforth you claim to be in support of “international standards” and “human rights”… and since when does that include colluding with former Yugoslavians nationalist extremists threatening Greece’s territorial integrity with Macedonian word games?

Why are you still pretending not to notice your pals at “United Macedonia” Diaspora and MHRMI’s identity quick change into the antihellenic founders of the Hellenistic period? Why are you still pretending not to notice them promoting UNITED MACEDONIA.. that includes huge chunks of Greece ? Real credible academic and “human rights’ work there Danforth.

Can Mr. “human rights” remind Greeks again what US Secretary of State E. Stettinius meant when he wrote on behalf of official US government policy in Dec 26, 1944….

“The Department has noted with considerable apprehension increasing propaganda rumors and semi-official statements in favor of an autonomous Macedonia, emanating principally from Bulgaria, but also from Yugoslav Partisan and other sources, with the implication that Greek territory would be included in the projected state. This Government considers talk of Macedonian “nation,” Macedonian “Fatherland,” or Macedonian “national consciousness” to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece.”

It “ethnic Macedonians” existed back then (rather than Bulgarians framing themselves as “Macedonians”) as you incompetently insinuate in your book… it follows Truman, subsequently Eisenhower and the US government they represent, that militarily supported Greeks on this Macedonia name issue, must have been involved in their attempted genocide of what you today frame as “ethnic Macedonians”..

So whose the liar then? Truman and Eisenhower that actually fought Nazis and communists. Or an alleged “academic” that now unethically pretends not to notice former Yugoslavians extremists abusing the name to promote irredentism yet again today — as Greeks warned would happen but were pretentiously mocked by someone that claims to support “human rights” and “international standards”.

Amazing how someone that claims to be for “international standards” and “human rights”… associates and sends letters of support to extreme nationalists in Skopje threatening Greece.

Of course I don’t expect a response from a pompous self-righteous Greek hating bigot that doesn’t have the integrity to admit Greeks had a point warning against recognition. Like most of those that ridiculously recognized them as “Macedonians” you unethically evade and censor evidence that paints you, and those that recognized them as “Macedonians”, in a far less flattering picture of yourself then you do.

“human rights’ and “international standards” according to Loring Danforth

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By: Αλέξανδρος /news/2013/03/14/cultural-collisions-drive-kroepsch-honoree/#comment-263338 Thu, 14 May 2020 17:09:00 +0000 /news/?p=63094#comment-263338 In other news… Mr. Principles Loring Danforth claims George Washington equally belongs to Mexico as a historical figure. American identity is a “social construct” an Imagine community. A political ideology that assimilates into unhyphenated Americans.

Ergo lets all recognize north mexico as “republic of Texas”, their identity as “ethnic Texans”, their language as the “Texan language”, Let all pretend to not notice them trying to usurp Texan historical figures as their own, claiming modern American are persecuting the “ethnic Texan” minority in the “divided” and “occupied’ part of Texas. Lets all pretend we don’t notice them promoting “United Texas”.. that includes a huge chunk of the US.

Sound bizarre?

This is essentially what Loring Danforth, that claims to be an academic against racism, has been supporting for years in helping ethnic engineering obvious frauds in Skopje into “ethnic Macedonians” — ironically behaving much like the communist propagandists of the Soviet Union once did on this issue. He blames Greeks for his own mistake of supporting conscious propagandists in the former Yugoslavia that have turned into the antihellenic founders of the Hellenistic period right before his eyes.

The public depends on academics like Danforth for truthful reporting of the facts. Danforth is more about protecting his far leftist politics, ego and image of moral infallibility than his academic work. He lacks the integrity to admit errors in his academic and moral judgement. It’s unfortunate that ֲý college has Danforth as a professor. He’s incompetent and the kids he’s teaching are being indoctrinated into Danforth’s philosophical beliefs while its being pawned off as “anthropology” .

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By: Αλέξανδρος /news/2013/03/14/cultural-collisions-drive-kroepsch-honoree/#comment-263337 Thu, 14 May 2020 16:56:00 +0000 /news/?p=63094#comment-263337 I’ve spoken to you before Danforth– and I know first hand you have no academic or moral credibility on Macedonian name dispute. To be blunt, you appear to be an antihellenic bigotl Rather than address criticisms directed at your behavior you simply smear any Greek that calls our your behavior and bizarre academic claims as “Greek nationalist’.

For years Greeks warned against recognition. Instead you decided to contradict years of American foreign policy on this issue (even editing out your own government also used to say there is no such thing as an “ethnic Macedonians”). and engaged in inventing “ethnic Macedonians” out of mostly ethnic Bulgarians… ironically behaving much like the propagandists of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia in helping fanatics in MHRMI and UMD oppress Bulgarian identity in Skopje.

One doesn’t’ need an ancient historical narrative to observe you trying to whitewash your propagandist pals at MHRMI, UMD, VMRO, et al’s recent identity quick change from Slavs into the ancient Macedonians and “United Macedonia” irredentist rhetoric. Someone with actual academic integrity would have admitted they made a mistake recognizing them as simply “ethnic Macedonians” and “Macedonia”. Not you.

While you claim to be against racism, you’ve clearly shown a pattern of ethnic harassment of Greeks. You lied to human rights groups and even on encyclopedia Britannica today by insinuating there is academic consensus modern Greeks are unrelated to ancient Macedonians. It’s even reached the absurd point where , quite idiotically, your article on encyclopedia Britannica lists “ethnic Macedonians” in demographics Skopje… but no ethnic Greeks in Greece? (effectively amounting to a subtle attempt to ethnic cleanse Greeks). You contradict your own alleged principles of self-determination when it comes to ethnic Greeks.

The truth is you wanted to show the dumb “Greek nationalist” they are not “real” Greek. You listened to your inner fascist and bought into Skopians hate propaganda. And it backfired in your face when the former Yugoslavians turned into ancient Macedonians.

As a Greek I don’t know what is more disturbing. A neo-Fallmayerist academic fraud and pompous bigot that tries to pawn ofv his politics as academic work– or the countless number of similar patronizing bigots that also try to whitewash the former Yugoslavians identity flip-flopping from Slavs into apparently the antihellenic founders of the Hellenistic period. You don’t even have the integrity to truthfully report history in your own lifetime and contradict your own alleged morals then expect Greeks to take your historical narratives and ethics lectures seriously.

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By: Loring Danforth /news/2013/03/14/cultural-collisions-drive-kroepsch-honoree/#comment-16659 Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:17:41 +0000 /news/?p=63094#comment-16659 Dear Charles, Thank you for your comment. We certainly have not overlooked, nor do we excuse, the many ways in which the Saudi government fails to uphold international standards of women’s rights, human rights more generally, and rights to freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion. We have discussed these topics at length; we have also discussed how we can responsibly speak and write about our experiences in Saudi Arabia. We have concluded that these negative aspects of Saudi government policies are widely known in the United States, while the positive aspects of Saudi society and culture are not well known. Many Americans, for example, know that the Saudi government does not allow women to drive, but they do not know about the Saudi women who have bravely protested the ban. Many Americans also know that the Saudi government practices strict censorship, but they don’t know the work of the many young Saudi artists who are producing wonderful work in spite of this censorship. In our speaking and writing, therefore, we have focused on aspects of Saudi life that most Americans are unfamiliar with. Loring Danforth

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By: Charles Plotkin ֲý '49 /news/2013/03/14/cultural-collisions-drive-kroepsch-honoree/#comment-15235 Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:32:24 +0000 /news/?p=63094#comment-15235 I wonder if, in their enthusiasm for what they have been shown,, some of your students may overlook or excuse Saudi official attitudes toward women, Christians, Jews, gays, and other minorities.

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By: Phylllis Graber Jensen /news/2013/03/14/cultural-collisions-drive-kroepsch-honoree/#comment-15166 Sat, 13 Apr 2013 03:14:51 +0000 /news/?p=63094#comment-15166 In reply to Dona Bergin.

Unfortunately, the talk was not videotaped.

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By: Dona Bergin /news/2013/03/14/cultural-collisions-drive-kroepsch-honoree/#comment-11405 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 15:01:31 +0000 /news/?p=63094#comment-11405 I’d love to hear Danforth’s talk on 3/21 (my daughter, who is studying in Jordan this year, reveres him) but the long drive (6+ hours) is discouraging me. Any chance that it will be videotaped or linked online?

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